stuggling with kicks

Discussion in 'Flexibility Training' started by Whit, Jun 18, 2017.

  1. Whit

    Whit Valued Member

    I have some damage to my knees and rock hard tendons due to that damage so im struggling to kick above my hips.

    Should i just stick to low kicks o is it something i can get past with some sort of stretching technique i dont know about?
  2. Simon

    Simon The Bulldog Admin

    What has your doctor/physio told you?

    We need to be careful making recommendation without some understanding of the damage.

    What sort of stretching programme do you currently use.

    Many people are now steering away from the old school stretching routines and focusing more on flexibility through strength.

    That doesn't have to mean weights, but it does mean holding kicking and chamber positions out for longer for example.
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  3. Van Zandt

    Van Zandt Mr. High Kick

    What exactly is the injury?

    You need to address the issue(s) with your knees and their tendons - focus on restoring muscle balance (strength, range of motion), stability and power needed for daily living activities before progressing to developing a level of flexibility beyond "normal" limits.

    Do you have access to a therapist?
  4. Whit

    Whit Valued Member

    no i dont and they dont seem to want to assign me one the damage is from a nail that ended up under the skin of my knee and damaged some nerves
  5. Van Zandt

    Van Zandt Mr. High Kick

    So was the subsequent injury to the tendon from the impact of said nail, or an infection?
  6. Whit

    Whit Valued Member

    i think it was to do we me not being able to use it properly for a while i cant 100% remember what the doctor said
  7. Van Zandt

    Van Zandt Mr. High Kick

    You need to get a thorough diagnosis from your doctor before we can even begin to offer useful advice. Even better - seek out a therapist who can do hands-on assessment and treatment.
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  8. SamuraiMaster

    SamuraiMaster New Member

    is it painful if you try to kick low?
  9. Whit

    Whit Valued Member

    very i think its my hamstrings
  10. Mitch

    Mitch Lord Mitch of MAP Admin

    Which kicks are causing you problems?
  11. Van Zandt

    Van Zandt Mr. High Kick

    A big problem with pain during kicking is that oftentimes it's referred, i.e. it's caused by structural issues above or below the site where it is felt.

    In your situation for example, what one might immediately assume to be short and tight hamstrings, could very easily be due to a bunch of issues in the calves, glutes, hip capsules and pelvis (to name just a few).

    Most manual therapists offer a free screening and assessment as part of their services, so it's definitely worth seeking one out.
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  12. Whit

    Whit Valued Member

    I think it also may be a factor of me being in IT for years and never really practising kicks so they have hardened or something.

    Roundhouse kicks, its mostly in the chamber and actually getting my leg up, i can really feel my hamstrings even when warmed up, i also cant touch my toes.
  13. Van Zandt

    Van Zandt Mr. High Kick

    Do you mean you sit at a desk for long hours?

    The techniques will become easier as your motor control improves with consistent practice.

    Lateral kick and chambering height is primarily governed by range of movement in the adductors of the kicking leg, and adductors & hamstrings of the standing leg. A simple yet very specific stretch for this technique is to assume a roundhouse kick position at full extension, with the foot of the kicking leg resting on a platform (e.g. a chair, a desk or a ledge) at a height that creates a comfortable stretch in those muscle groups.

    The toe touch is a bit of a misleading benchmark for flexibility. It's more often than not governed by flexibility in the thoracic, lumbar and sacroiliac regions than the hamstrings. A few months of Romanian deadlifts will soon see your flexibility in this position increase.
  14. Whit

    Whit Valued Member

    Basically yes.

    I have to start dead lifting at all lol.
  15. Van Zandt

    Van Zandt Mr. High Kick

    Sitting for long periods, whether at a desk, behind the wheel of a motorvehicle, or chilling on the sofa with a tub of Pringles, is bad for your flexibility and overall health.

    Try to break up long periods of sitting by standing up and moving around a bit every 10-15 minutes.
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